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Lake: Jefferson Lake

fish trout with spinners or flies?

Post By: multi      Posted: 10/11/2017 7:43:39 AM     Points: 0    
I am new to fly fishing & wanted to try it on a lake. I see plenty of fishermen on the shore using spinners at Jefferson lake. Can anyone give me advise on fly vs spinner?
Mike
 Reply by: jlimke      Posted: Oct. 11, 7:53:11 AM     Points: 415    
Fly on a lake form shore is a recipe for a bad time, especially if there are any shrubs taller than 4 FT. I would recommend a spin-cast setup and save the fly rod for the river.
 Reply by: SGM      Posted: Oct. 11, 8:08:02 AM     Points: 4078    
Both are very effective depending on what the fish are in the mood for. If you have a fly rod and spin rod I suggest you take both. If you see action on the top then work your flies. If not then you can cast your spinners, jigs etc. I use a lot of flies on my spinning outfit. I suggest having a wide variety of dry, nymphs, streamers, wooly worms, San Juans etc. (match the hatch) and have them in a few different colors and sizes. Also the fish you want to target play a part. Bows, brookies will hit either fairly regular however, lakers IMO tend to hit jigs and spinners better than flies. Location you are fishing can also play a part. Some areas you just cannot cast a fly effectivly on a fly rod so the spinning rod is a better option.

I'm sure others will share their thoughts too but hope this helps.
 Reply by: Jacob J      Posted: Oct. 11, 8:09:02 AM     Points: 710    
I would respectfully disagree.

Yes, fishing from shore at Jefferson will limit the ability to catch larger laker trout species but by no means is a definition of a bad time. Don't forget about rainbows.

I would suggest to utilize 5 casts rule. Tie a spinner and if no hits - switch.
Don't forget other lures - cranks, wobblers, etc. Tasmanian Devils 7gr and 21gr do good (proven).

As far as flies goes - wet flies under bobber also a good choice (just play with the patterns and hook sizes). Pistol Pete or Wooly Bugers worked well for me.

For shore fisherman to be able to achieve a long cast is important. This is why line and rod selection is also important.

And a the last but not least - MOVE. Just walk around the lake.

You will always outfish bait fishermen. I do.
 Reply by: Mr. Fly Fisherman      Posted: Oct. 11, 8:12:15 AM     Points: 70    
It helps to use waders from shore and this time of year I would throw size 8-10 woolly buggers for the lakers starting to move shallow. You fish a woolly bugger by casting it out as far as I can and then strip it in. Mix up how fast you strip it in to find what they want.
 Reply by: anglerwannabe      Posted: Oct. 11, 8:39:55 AM     Points: 32248    
or you could use a spinner fly.. here's a blog on one type

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 Reply by: bud4me2      Posted: Oct. 11, 11:36:15 AM     Points: 20    
Off subject... but is the gate to the lake still open?
 Reply by: Bubba02STi      Posted: Oct. 11, 11:50:41 AM     Points: 316    
Spent quite some time this year with the fly rod on the lakes over the spin gear. Catching anything worth while required wading out about waist deep. This time of year Iíd recommend bringing waders. There are several different cast techniques that you can utilize if you are around brush or trees. The fly rod can be a lot of fun and really helped me with dry fly action. I like to use an indicator at the top of my leader to help with getting the cast out there further. Using a large top fly and then nymph/midge on the bottom. Personally Iím going back to the spin gear till lakes freeze and will be using the fly on the rivers till spring. Moving around is important. If you arenít getting any hits and have tried new flies and different retrieves you probably arenít going to catch anything. You will find big fish in the shallows so donít be discouraged about not getting far casts. Bluegill can be a riot on the fly rod. They strike fast and like to dive down in the weeds. Iíve noticed they love red zebra midges. Trout are a little more picky. Matching the hatch is important.
 Reply by: Kenny Rukspin      Posted: Oct. 11, 1:36:37 PM     Points: 3232    
I haven't fished from the shore at Jefferson, but flies and spinners should work well for the rainbows. If you plan on fly fishing, I would recommend getting there in the morning. The wind usually picks up around 10-11am. The lake trout should be moving to shallower water, and you could have some success with tube jigs tipped with sucker meat, if you have it. The tube jigs will also work for the rainbows.

bud4me2 - the gate was open on Sunday (October 8) and the attendant said it could will probably be open for several more weeks if the weather stays nice. You can call the Forest Service office to make sure: [log in for link]
 Reply by: bud4me2      Posted: Oct. 11, 2:12:49 PM     Points: 20    
-Thanks for the update Kenny!
 Reply by: riper69      Posted: Oct. 12, 5:53:56 AM     Points: 2624    
Pistle Pete's
 Reply by: Ajax5240      Posted: Oct. 12, 9:09:50 AM     Points: 21517    
Buy some of those things AWB posted about... They work great!
 Reply by: multi      Posted: Oct. 13, 6:49:36 AM     Points: 0    
Thanks for all the great advice. I am going to try a "spinner fly" on a spin casting reel.
 Reply by: multi      Posted: Oct. 13, 6:51:18 AM     Points: 0    
The Jefferson lake gate was open last weekend (10-8-17)
 Reply by: anglerwannabe      Posted: Oct. 13, 6:53:35 AM     Points: 32248    
with the spinner fly.. I like to use bobber stoppers and a small bullet weight.. allows a little more cast distance.. and gets the lure down a little bit.. allows for depth control.. good luck
 Reply by: i2fly      Posted: Oct. 13, 9:38:49 PM     Points: 840    
I don't spin fish anymore. However a clear casting bubble with 1-2 flies behind it always worked at Jefferson. Woolly buggers were a favorite.
Flyrod fishing under an indicator is usually enhanced with wind. Use a rroll cast where you have brush and trees. I've caught a lot fish within 30' feet of me. You should be able to roll cast that far. Use the wind to your advantage. Typical wind up there is WNW . If you can get the wind some what behind you a roll cast of 60' is possible. Years ago I made a commitment to the fly rod. You have to use it in all conditions to get good with it. So I'm prejudiced. Plus I needed all the practice I could get. Lol


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