Post By: anglerwannabe Posted: 2/16/2017 6:26:55 PMPoints: 30151
Do you think a true bait cast swim bait reel like say the Daiwa Lexa or Shimano Curado is necessary? Or will most of today's modern bait cast reels fit the bill? The biggest thing I could find in favor of a true swim bait reel was line capacity. So if using strictly flouro or mono I see the need. But if using braid, is the larger spool necessary? Practical?
There is more to a swimbait reel than line capacity, the drag and bearing package is very important. Depends also what size baits you will be throwing and your budget. Curado 200 will work fine under 3oz, the 300D'S are great all round and the E being primo!!! I actually throw one rod with a Daiwa Advantage and have been very happy with it, handles baits to 5oz easy but don't throw it as much as I would like.
Reply by: Harry Paratesties Posted: Feb. 17, 6:59:42 AM Points: 0
Anglerwannabe, yes you do need a larger spool. If you use 1oz or heavier swim baits you also wanna use 20pd flouracarbon if you use a reagular reel you will notice more than half your spool is gone on a cast. And if you hook up to a pike or tiger Muskie on reg rod and reel setup your gonna be in for a struggle!!!! Also I don't care what other people say but you must also have a good swim bait rod rated to handle the weight. I had a Abu Garcia Vendetta 7'6" heavy rod rated up to 1 1/2 oz lures, I was throwing a 2oz Huddleston worked fine until about after 50 or so casts then the rod snapped on a cast. Not the fist rod i broke on swim baits either. I picked up a Dobyns fury swim bait rod rated 1to 4 oz, used it all last year with no problems and also have the ability to horse in big fish. Bottom line, if your gonna get into big swim baits then you better have the right gear because you can't always count on being lucky....
Reply by: Harry Paratesties Posted: Feb. 17, 7:30:39 AM Points: 0
Sorry got add some more. Anglerwannabe I know your thoughts are about reel and reel sizes but and wide spool or large reel but honestly any wide or deep spool will work fine. I fished large swim baits all my life from Cali to Texas and Florida from all my years of swim bait fishing and the most important thing is Rod and line selection. This is from my personal experiences and I'm gonna try to save you money because I've been through a lot of rods all broke on the cast over the years.
Reply by: esoxrocks Posted: Feb. 17, 7:47:33 AM Points: 2371
Not a swim bait expert but we do throw a lot of heavier bucktails (3.5-4.0 oz+) for Musky. We definitely use an up-sized/lower gear ratio reel (5.0 to 5.4:1) and a longer, heavier rod (7.6' or so minimum). Cranking on a 4 oz double-cowbell all day with a high gear reel will just about kill you...
Reply by: anglerwannabe Posted: Feb. 17, 8:02:58 AM Points: 30151
Esox - I know you're a Shimano guy.. I'll convert you yet! lol
Brat - let us know how that reel holds up
Harry - I ordered a Kistler KLX 7'8" designed to throw up to 4 oz. I already have a St Croix Premier with a Toro Winch and it is a fun setup. But after a couple hours, you're ready for a break. So my design is to go lighter. Right now I'm thinking braid with a flouro leader. While I've thrown some Curado's I lean heavily to Daiwa for my bait cast reels. I've played with a Lexa at stores but it doesn't feel near as comfortable as some of my other reels. Thank you for all the great feedback
For the moment I am considering the Curado or Lexa as the swim bait reel. But the price if that JDM Tatula coupled with the fact I already own one and love it... is beckoning also. lol The Shimano Metanium is also priced great right now.. and I also have one of those and love it.
Reply by: esoxrocks Posted: Feb. 17, 8:10:21 AM Points: 2371
...I get my ABU (baitcaster) and Shimano (spinning) heritage mostly from my family (dad, grandfather) rather than any scientific analysis of the competing brands.
But now my brother is messing everything up with his "open minded" ways...including liking Diawa stuff. I think it may come more exposure to the brand via the salt-water bug he (and I ) have caught in recent years.